Bring Your Chief Architect and Design Questions to the Designers Show #87

designers show Oct 24, 2022
Bring Your Chief Architect and Design Questions to the Designers Show #87

In this Designers Show, Dan Baumann, John Schrader, and their regular guests Robin Fisher and Rene Rabbitt, share their experiences and expertise on tips and strategies for the real world of design in construction.  

Some topics covered include using Before & After Sliders, bringing images into your plans, and using Matterport. We also highlight a few Chief Architect Icons. 

  • Welcome & Upcoming Class 00:01 
  • Using Before & After Sliders on Your Website 06:58 
  • 12:54 
  • How to Show a Glass House Image 13:36 
  • Using Multiple Template Pages/Layouts 22:12 
  • Bringing Pictures into Your Plans 23:34 
  • The Arc With Arrow Tool 27:47 
  • Custom Line Types 33:30 
  • Selecting Images 35:41 
  • Adding Links into Text 36:58 
  • Using a Matterport Scan 41:00 
  • The Roof Saddle Tool 49:24 
  • What to Buy for a Video Card for Chief X14 1:00:02 
  • Putting a Callout Label on a Picture in a Layout 1:03:18 
  • Go to for Upcoming Course 1:05:11 






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all right here we are hi everyone Dan here with Chief experts on the designer show number 87. gosh we're nearing that 100 Mark how about that all right on with John and Robin and rabbit today how rabbit rabbit design that's actually what all my friends call me so we got names on the screen that I got yours and said right but you have absolutely like the greatest name Renee it really is cool do people call you Rogers sometime no actually most people call me RAB and it's kind of funny but yeah it works too that works you have absolutely the greatest names I love oh thank you all right so here we are um all of us are showing up here at the last minute trying to figure out what we're going to do today um I do have some cool things I want to show you guys and I know Robin wants to do some a few things on lighting and then she wants to talk about the lighting class she'll be hosting here and uh John and Renee whatever you want to talk about but we'll spin the wheel a little bit too if it gets to that so um just got back from a lovely trip in Luxembourg and let me just I'm going to share one thing real quick the main reason we went there and I can't wait to go back um see what do I add Ed mine here it is share screen they changed the share screen that present that's weird on our control panel so anyway um here is the main reason we went to Luxembourg and this is my family my four kids and my wife and the little pieces of paper there certified that they have done everything they need to gain their citizenship in Europe so that's pretty cool and uh in about four months they'll be official so that was the main reason went there but we saw a ton of the country we saw a lot of architecture and we just had a it was really a nice time so it was a really cool trip recommended if you guys ever want to go somewhere it's a little different check out Luxembourg it's easy to get around they have fantastic uh Transportation free trains free buses you just hop on and get off whenever you want they have a great app type in where you want to go it tells you what buses to get on what train trains to get out it's really cool anyway it was a fun trip so highly recommend it we also saw a little town called Trier in Germany and my kids went and saw the Mets in France so a quick 40-minute train ride each way and uh it was cool so you should check it out and if you ever want to talk about it give me a call I'd be happy to share any information that you'd like to know so cool anyway a couple things um we could have a lighting class coming up by lighting uh well Robin why don't you explain what your course is all about so this is um to teach people how to really understand lighting um for it's mostly understanding lighting for kitchen and bath and how to illuminate it illuminate a room properly so that what your clients can actually see in the space but also so it's really about understanding lighting understanding where lighting is going and learning how to specify the correct fixture for your space um and then to really understand how we illuminate the rest of the house so mostly we're really going to focus on kitchen and bath but how do how do you illuminate the whole house and some different techniques and then also we'll be spending a little bit of time of learning how to um in court use use Chief and increase the lighting quality of your renderings so it'll be a really good class very the first three classes will be lecture and the last class will be a lot of Chief Information yeah so that'll be fun so this is for those of you that like me that don't know have a clue about how to do Lighting in a room this would be very valuable um I I've always been excited to throw a light bulb in the middle of the room and call it good so it doesn't always work for your clients not always the best no so let me check it yeah so check it out the class starts on the November 1st it's the first third eighth and 10th we're going to go from noon Pacific uh for about 90 minutes each session and if you use this code right here like class 50 when you register you'll get 50 bucks off so it'll be 297 for the four for the class and you'll have access to the class and then good informational um opportunity but it's applied information yeah and you'll have access to the course you know basically indefinitely um through the recordings so that everything gets uh stored in the membership you always come back to it and have edits so if any questions let us know and we look forward to seeing in the lighting class this should be a fun class and we're going to bend Renee's arm to come in and talk a little bit about lighting and rendering I don't think we've even asked them that yet but I just saw him not yes so that comes thank you I know people's talking about that stuff so all right cool um other than that if you guys have questions please type them in oh Bill's on his way to Europe on Monday cool where you going Bill uh it was a I tell you if you want to learn history go there man I I never paid much attention in geography so I really didn't know where I was but now I do a cool country it's really really cool we saw the uh in Trier we saw the Gateway one of the four gateways this is the only one remaining of the early Roman Empire that was there over 2 000 years old and just just that's pretty cool so it just like hits you this you know you look at a 200 year old building United States and it's just like nothing over there anyway no it's new construction two thousand year 200 years old this new construction there okay oh you're going to Greece and Rome oh my god oh yeah you got you're gonna see some cool stuff really cool Mom where are you going it's not Montevideo is it month I don't think that's is that spelled correctly the last one I know you're gonna have a great time sounds like fun have a great time Bill look forward to hearing back from you um all right so at any time feel free to join the white list on this and uh we'll I'll be getting you information on this next week so this is coming up fast all right let's jump into what we're going to talk about today so the task today was everybody was supposed to present about 10 minutes worth of information uh Robin would you like to go first you ready I mean I'll go if you guys know [Music] I did my thing no no no no you're supposed to get that cheap and show some stuff let's go first we can just spin the wheel if you guys aren't ready so um that's the joy of doing this kind of thing we do shoot from the hip once in a while and this would be one of those days however I do want to show you something really cool um when you uh this would be something you could use on your website okay and have you ever seen these little sliders like this where you could slide the picture over this is new and this is old and this happens this building that you're looking at right now happens to be my wife's great great great grandparents house in Luxembourg wow Isn't that cool and this is this is uh right the right there at the bottom is Andrea's Blackwood sliding yeah quick sliding that's Andrew's mom yeah she's still with us and doing great she was they were there four years ago and that's her sister and then a couple other people so uh this is what it looks like today some people bought the house and it's been all restored and it's fabulous and they did a great job of reclaiming a lot of old materials like the staircase inside was built out of the old roof Rafters and they saved some of the 200 year old tile floor and my wife actually got a piece of it uh the person the owner gave her a piece that it was really cool so anyway um here's a good example of again a before and after this is actually a project I designed in Wayzata Minnesota this is what it looked like before um and this is what it looks like all done so can you find this where do you find that well let me let me tell you okay there's two plays two ways to do this uh the one at the top here is done with a program called Juck juxtapose.js juxtapose.js let me go to the website um it's Juck Chuck pose okay yeah that's what it is so it's it's an interesting site it's a freeware it's a free site um it's uh open source information so this is all you have to do to create that slider I just showed you of the old house uh the one in Luxembourg you do have to use dropbox that's the only thing because it's going to read the pictures from Dropbox so you put you go here and you you find the picture in Dropbox for for the first the old picture that you want so here's the old one and then you you choose that and then you go find the picture for the Right image the newer image and go here like that and that's it so that's what you do and then you could put some labels on there and give credit to you know for each of the pictures and then you would click on let's see where is the what do I get the code Codes right here uh no publish and then we take this oh yeah that's right I think we can can we put that in Facebook let me look here I think we can even drop that in Facebook I haven't tried it yeah here's what it would show up I think we could drop that into Facebook using that link and then if you want to embed it on your website like I did you just paste that code in there and that a little better wow that's really all there is to it it's really simple that's pretty cool so and you know the cool thing about this is you the pictures are in your Dropbox so if something ever happened to this website at least you'd still have your pictures you might lose the function but um I this has been worthwhile I know Renee you have some of these on your website so uh but you aren't using juxtapos you're using elf the elf apps so that's the second one on the page here that I want to show you so here if we scroll down here this is a different app now this is called this is app used from a company called elf site for five bucks a month or for free I think you can do this and have 200 views but if you wanted to have more you could uh I think five bucks a month or ten bucks a month it's not much and you they have like 20 or 30 different apps that do different things for your website so elf site you can sign up for free and try it uh it's a cool software you would same kind of a deal you go add you go create a left and right picture so I would go here and I'd you know put my pictures in and this you don't need dropboxes you could this pictures are in the app not part of your Dropbox so you don't have to worry about that and then once you drop your two pictures in you can add a little title down here by adding this and then you can add a bunch of these so you could have a whole series of these before announcers of different projects or the same project you know if you show different parts of the house so you create that um and you can change the layouts and a few things like that it's really simple and when you're done um you save it and go to add the website and then you grab this code and paste that on your website in a in a code box and done and that's all there is to that one too there's tutorials that you could request installation looks like they'll help you if you need help with that so but if you're any if you have any knowledge about doing your website at all it's really simple to do and then again with elf site they have tons and tons of different apps that you can use on your website photo galleries and all sorts of things it's really a cool little site um no I don't get anything for telling you about this it's just a it's just a lot of neat little apps that you know this guy I use it yep yeah this company has found some uh weak spots and it has plugged them up with some of these little apps so a little thing just um think about so that's a little bit about that app so uh again uh juxtapose and elf site and check it out I think you'll enjoy it and I'll show you another thing too in Chief Architect as long as I'm on it so I'll show you how to do this okay some of you might already know how to do this but this is this is pretty cool this is that actual house that I was showing you the before and after picture of uh of the project that I drew so we started out with that little cracker box house uh if I go back here and we look at the the existing condition here's the as built of that house wasn't much um nice you know little house it was it was really in rough shape uh on a little lot but I went out there did a complete ads built it was like 10 below that day when I did this so it was really cold it didn't have any heat so I was in another pretty quick but um I did get very accurate measurements and then I went and we redid the plan and of course there's a new plan now so quite a bit different um and if I go in here and I turn on my cad as built lines which I've talked about this many times now you can kind of see where the old house used to lay out so property change the house changed a lot I mean this is all one big addition and we got rid of the garage or a little pass-through carport where we expanded the upper level up above it we can only go up to a certain we had to stay 10 feet back from the property line here so that's why that ended there but yeah we had a lot of fun designing this and getting in place this was a guy that was flipping the property that did this so it really did it upright they did a really really nice job now the way that you show this kind of a image where I'm showing a glass house on top of the existing you can do it vice versa too it's really simple so what you do is you go into the project by bringing up a 3D View to bring up a 3D view like this okay now the houses need to be in the same position that you've started so uh so when you make a copy of the plan and just make changes to it everything stays in the same same spot to Chief if not you'll have to reposition in your plant but once you get to this point you go you click on the floor number Okay click on the floor number right here and when you get to the floor number you'll notice down here you have this reference display all right so what I want to do is here's the plan that I'm looking at right now and I want to show another plan on top of it all right so what I'm going to do is choose a plan to show along with this it's kind of you know it's kind of like when you do the reference and you show the second floor above the first floor and vice versa that this kind of what this is all about but this allows you to do a lot more so I'm going to pick the new plant so here's the old one the as built here's the new plan and then I'm going to say well what kind of what kind of uh view do I want standard rendered Glass House technical or vector I'm going to go Glass House and then I'm going to click ok now you're going to see the the new the the second plan the referenced plan is sitting on top of the existing so that's how I'm able to show what's changed here it's pretty slick it works pretty well and what you could do is I noticed in Chief when it comes up the the uh Glass House comes up not so glassy so you can adjust that but you don't adjust it by going up here okay so for the referenced plan don't use this don't use this to reference to change the The Glass House go back to the floor number and you're going to Define that right here you're going to Define how that camera looks and I'm going to go right here now I can turn my transparency up so I want it to be 90 transparent so I click OK and when I click OK again I'll be able to see through the transparency even more so now you can really get a good idea of what's what's been changed here so kind of cool that works really well and I I've used this on a few projects I've you know different people are using it to show their additions that they're adding and things like that which is to get a great way to compare what's existing what's new any questions that makes sense John says just learned something new I can use cool John that's why we're here I hope you like this um Renee we can't add more than one reference can we I think that's it yeah we can do anything can we add multiples yeah how do we do that oh insert a buttons so I could reference a whole slew of different things here couldn't I cool so you could reference option one option two option three in the same space uh so yeah I could see you could do a whole lot of different things with this Renee you're doing you're using this any special ways in your projects um actually this just came up and um so Dan obviously has you know uh great teaching courses and one-on-one training I do a couple like power user trainers and um I just used this the other day we referenced all the different construction document views just so that they could place their room label in a place that wasn't conflicting with all the information across all the views [Music] which is kind of a funny use of it but it was just a demonstration case why not worked it worked I guess it's on the floor plan yeah like you were just saying uh that that's where you were using on the floor plan right yeah exactly so you did the reference here so there's and then reference your electrical set reference your framing set right so I'm going to reference the new one here uh and then what layer set are you going to reference okay so if I go in here and say I'm going to reference my um my default set is the older plan so I'm still using default set and so there you go so now I can see uh the existing house on top of the new house so that's another way you can show the as built versus new um I do it a little bit differently in the way I show them because I think it's easier but this works too it really does while you're on that let me share mine real quick yeah because I do a lot of remodels and if you have automatic framing turned off um and you're doing a remodel what's nice about that is you can come in here and select I'm just going to select a couple roof planes and say that this was existing and in my edit menu I can hit build framing for that right right well now I've got this framing enabled let me just go ahead and select all of it and open it up and in line style I'm going to Define that this is framing new or framing existing in this case okay now that's done now I can go and build I don't know what that was build the framing for this roof and kick back to the other roofs and turn them into like a light gray or something and there we go very quickly I have light gray framing versus a darker framing and pump up the line Styles it's probably difficult to see here but if you like using lines to show the framing instead of the framing boxes I do um yeah just an old and this isn't my framing view I have a different view for that but you know I'd have to go back and and click this on and I have a hatch line for that nope understood yeah no yeah but very quickly you could do new versus existing on a selection basis um just to frame a particular element yeah no that makes great sense it's a good way to do it it's cool all right I'm gonna go spin our wheel how about that and then oh I can show something I got something prepped now this is really this is all right we'll let you do it then we'll spin the wheel then we'll decide and then I'll be ready after that oh okay so so then so we were just you know talking about design aspects of of using the software and something I use this software infrequently but it's still of use is that um taking advantage of the fact that we can have multiple different template pages in layout right so that I have a construction document here and then somewhere down the line I've designated a layout that's just a blank layout so that I could do an FF e proposal so you can use this software in a number of different ways and so this is great for doing storyboarding or anything like that don't forget that you can do pretty Dynamic storyboards and Chief Architect it's not all the tools hell I've drawn foot soccer fields and calendars and I mean yeah I used to coach my kids uh Grade School soccer team and I drew up the soccer field that could show different players positions and things like that anyway kind of fun good what you know right yeah yeah that's cool so um on that topic you know I think real quick on that topic I want to talk because you drag a lot of pictures into your plan then yeah to create those boards um so let's just cover this real quick I just did a little plan here yesterday I'm working on with a guy and let me open that real quick let me show my screen um so let me open this and it was this one so I I bring I always bring tons of pictures into my plans oh this is it this is not it wrong do it again I wasn't prepared for this but I'll do it anyway um old school house there it is so here's a bunch of pictures that I brought into my plan you know I have them in a folder I can look at them in the folder too but I like bring them in my plans and I can zoom in and out of them anytime I want I can scale them and measure off of them I can zoom in real close and see better details now when you're bringing pictures into your plan all right I haven't started drawing anything yet so when I'm zooming out here I'm about you know 50 by 40 for a plan size um let me just go grab those pictures real quick we'll hear I'll just grab some some good old Luxembourg pictures how about that um so the way that you do this is there's that there's that 200 year old tile floor that they salvaged and uh so say I want to bring a bunch I want to bring these pictures into my plan all right whenever you drag something in the chief all right it fills the screen as much as it can all right so what I like to point out is when you're going to drag some pictures in zoom into an area where you want the pictures then drag in a you could drag in a whole group of them and just pop them right on your screen here okay so again it fills the screen as much as it can but look at how small it is okay now I can just pull those off I'm not going to go through the thing John um uh where are you guys for one thing distribute them out distribute them automatically uh but there you go so all I wanted to do is show you that Zoom Factor so what Rene was talking about is bringing lots of pictures in this is a way to do it quickly and then not have them fill in your screen all the time so anytime you drag a picture on the screen do that or import it and you don't have to use the import function at all by the way anything listed on the import list here you can just drag onto the screen you don't have to go through this import ant yeah but that question that's pinned right now um wow yes it increases the size of your file just by this the size of the picture so um you might need to resize your picture in the case that you have less than 16. you're talking about the physical um the file size yeah so if you have if your files are you know 100 Megs each uh yeah don't bring those into Chief it'll kill your uh redraw time like crazy so it went it wouldn't affect your redraw time if you put them on a cat detail though would it um yeah it's still going to drive your file size up so whatever the picture whatever the size of the pictures so if I look at these pictures here that picture is uh 2.37 megabytes so if I put 10 of those in my plan I just made myself my plan 22 23 megabytes bigger because it's not going to compress the size of the pictures once you bring them into Chief it's just going to add to the file size so when I get plans and I I have a ton of pictures in there are times when I do have to delete them from the plan or try turning putting them on later turning them off sometimes that seems to work okay too just kind of depends on the pictures in the format all right good one all right let's go spin the wheel and we'll go to John let's see what we've come up with here that's a good idea all right I'll make sound turned on what do we get here what do we got there um what is that one an art Arrowhead huh is that what that is is that under the arc tool yeah Arc with arrow okay you don't ever need to use that all right yeah just draw you know if you if you get good at this just hit your um alt a okay if you click alt a you'll be in Arrow mode you draw your line with the arrow on it well okay what's the difference between a line with Daryl and uh and a text Arrow um align with the arrow has no text with it uh well you can draw you can draw an arrow by itself right a text line with arrow right or you can draw if you get into the cad menu you've got a line with arrow are there any are there any difference yeah the text line with arrow um when attached to text will put it on that that layer okay oh yeah got it thank you um I do realize no I do use this one when I'm drawing It lines with the arrow plus you can set up a different Arrow so you could you could double click on that icon set your arrow defaults for that one separately from the arrow that you have in the other menu so for instance make that a circle arrow for a second I'll just show a use case for that sure so Circle Arrow open circle yeah there you go yep okay and then make hold on go change the size of it real quick okay so what do you want Oh here let me go make it like uh 20 25 inches 25 inch uh Circle yep and now you've got you know a little bubble bubble reference Arrow cool oh my gosh all right but so Renee you would then put a call out on the end of it or something yeah no I like that like a very detailed drawing in there but the thing about the icon that came up on her wheel was that it was curved so yes I could go in here and draw a Arc with an arrow on it oops except that reset my defaults um but never like I said because they could remove all their tools I wouldn't care all you have to do to bend the arrow is use your right Mouse button grab it with your right Mouse button and you can bend it on you're just bending a line works the same with all lines in Chief Architect um so uh when you do that if you hold your control key down while you're grabbing with your right Mouse button um you you get rid of the snaps too so you can be much more uh fluid with it plus you just hit the number three key and add a break in it and now you can do an arrow like that so you just hit the number three click bend it with the other way so that's how you can do those kind of arrows with a curved line so now once you have it curved um sometimes it's hard to place you can hold Ctrl and ALT to bend that thing all all kinds of crazy right how old what does that do um it well controls on doing the snaps and then and then alts your alternate behaviors sometimes when you've got an arc it's kind of locked in it's um in its radius like if you snap an electrical connection or something like that so you can kind of unbind it with the ALT key I'm just trying to see if I notice any difference I don't so that same default worked for both arrows so it worked for this and so it changed both of my arrow defaults why did it do that it's just that one's on a different layer than the other that's the only difference same Arrow so it's the same Arrow by setting either default but they're just on different layers by default so whatever layer you have set up with your plan view okay cool that's your curb Daryl I have a question though can I just I think I froze I think I froze when I was trying to ask her a question earlier but Renee when you make that open circle um Arrow big you put a drawing inside that like a detail drawing in there here I'll show you my screen I'll show you yeah um let's just open up a new plan so here's any time that in my template that I run a back clipped cross section oh yeah I don't detail sections I only um I only bubble them so here we go I'm going to have a call out here and then my default arrow is this guy perfect and then I'm going to take this and I'm going to link it to a detail in the in the detail yeah whatever this you know I am something like that that way this call out's you know telling you to go to that detail oh I see that's really smart and Renee will be in West Virginia to show you guys all this stuff and and actually while I have the screen um Dan you had a question that was responded to your post um about the uh custom line types right [Music] it was actually asked the last time and then they reminded me to get to it okay we didn't get to it yeah um just I don't know exactly what the question is it was about the text the text staying the same size okay when you rescale or something like that so the the text will do our minimum display size that's in our preferences um but that will be different from whatever the print preview is so you'd have to hit your print preview to actually see what it's going to be printing as so if he's having problem in print that's one thing if he's just talking about it on the screen then that's our um our preferences minimum display size um just right right here at the bottom of your appearance panel minimum display size dimensions how many pixels there so that that line text is going to be at minimum eight pixels for me no matter what how far I zoom in or zoom out but right if he wants to check to see what his print size is he's going to go to you know his uh his print preview and then in print preview it'll show them the correct side how does it control that how does he control the size of the text on a custom line he has to make a different different line styles for each scale that he's going to send to his drawing sheet you can't just use one and have it used for any kind of scale that he's going to send so similar to the the way we do text and text styles okay so if if he needs to expand from there um and if he's watching this just tell him excuse me um cool a real quick uh where'd my thing go yeah how'd you guys go I lost you are you still there hello we're here we're still here I'm losing my mind okay um uh back a topic ago I just wanted some because someone had about I just noticed on here one adding a bunch of pictures make your file size really big yes uh but what you could do is use any photo editing program or just search resize uh pictures and you'll come up with something like this simple imagery Sizer yeah you can hang on oh not soon thank you John um so here's one that you just select the image or you could probably select a whole group of images and oh you can only select one at a time I don't like that that's find a better one that'll do a whole bunch um and then you could just say how much smaller you want them so if your file sizes are I'd say bigger than five megabytes per picture uh do use something like this where you can compress uh make your file your picture smaller you shouldn't lose much quality but you know if I'd like to I like my pictures to be a megabyte or so um that way if I bring a bunch in it's not going to really blast my file size way up there another another way to do it would be since we can put more than one plan on a layout you could put all your pictures on a lap on a plan by itself there you go or you could reference it and have it on your floor plan there's a lot of different ways to do the same thing isn't there um cool all right John you're up what do you got okay I actually have two things one's one real quick I uh I'll show your screen I I how do I share my screen again I'm not going to show my screen for the first time go down to present present and then sure and share screen yeah and which screen do I want to share uh all right share screen and then that one I want to share okay so the first thing was I I was looking for a Simpson catalog the other day and I got this idea hey if I put some text on my plan in my library with this says Simpson catalog and put a link to it and throw that in my library all I have to do is go click on that and then click the link on it bring it into my plan and click the link on it and I'm in the Simpson catalog that was just a quick thing I don't know if that makes any sense or not but are you talking about adding a link into the text a text adding a link into your text yep with the Simpson catalog and then you just keep that in your library you're linking to a file on your computer no I'm linking to a to the to the cloud today or something the website yeah yeah so um I guess just in case somebody doesn't know how to do that you just go to regular text and you put in a text here called Simpson or whatever it is going to be and then you just add the link right here and I don't have the link with me but you paste the link in here and then when you go click on this text and it's not going to show up because there's no link in it probably and I can't see it anyway I can I'll show you a way how I use it all the time yeah why don't you let's show that quick and then we've got something other other fun thing okay so here's what I like to do with that function that John is talking about um so if I go to my chief whenever I get a client whatever client calls said they want to work on something first thing I ask them what's the address of the building that you're talking about so I get that address and then I take that and I I just copy that and I go to Google Maps and I paste that address in there and then what I do is when I'm on Google Maps I come in and I take the link from Google Maps and I come back here and I type in the URL from the Google Map that's a great great one all right so whenever I want to look up that building all I have to do is click that link you can't double click it because that'll just open the text you have to click on this little icon down here looks like a couple of links so you can link to anything on your computer and on the internet and Bam I'm at that link of looking at that building now so unfortunately it doesn't have it in 3D but um so that's a real simple way to use that that function that John was talking about that's a really good one John so glad you brought that up yeah and then I you can use it for anything like the one I'm going to show here is about matterport stuff so we I put a link on there that's called that just says matterport on each of my plans yeah and Link the matterport scan to it so also if you have something on your computer you can browse from this to that file on your computer so if you have a PDF if you have another plan if you have pictures whatever you could browse to that and then link to something on your computer as well so you don't have to you can link to the internet but you can also link to your computer so FYI that's what um so if you have that catalog on your computer you could link to it there right you want to show a second uh actually I'm still sharing you gotta just get to the right one right here that one up there I turned your screen on for you okay see all right thank you thank you yes all right so a while back we had a matterport scan that had multiple levels you know like a split level but it wasn't a split level it was just kind of a several buildings kind of put together and stuff like that so I started messing with the things that we got in the matter pack that's available for like forty nine dollars and I don't remember that this is the object the 3D object that I put in here or the cloud dot XYZ uh plan but this is a pretty simple one so we brought this we brought this image in here let me give you a camera shot of that what it looks like when it's so this is what it what we brought in over here you get this kind of thing here and then you can actually go inside of it you see the rooms and that kind of thing see how all the beams and that kind of stuff and then we took because we had all these different levels we took the plan so this is the this is the image that we went into into right here we took the plan and we did a backflip cross section on it just do a little short like one foot back clip cross section and you end up with this kind of thing so this is our this is my wall height um giving me my wall height on this and you can do to several different sections through the house to find out what's what's happening where um and then we took this image here and we turned it 90 degrees on its side so now if I do a back clip cross section through this one I'm going to have a floor plan and I can do that anywhere in there like above all the furniture and stuff like that so I don't get all the furniture so there's a floor plan of this this one here that we're working on now well that's a good way to grab those numbers yeah if you zoom in on it real close you'll see that you have multiple lines in there actually maybe trim the color off nope yeah turn the color off you'll see that you have multiple lines so you basically kind of just you have to kind of guess which one it is kind of pick out the straightest one that's in there that kind of thing this one here we had uh if you look over here and I don't have the matterport scan to pull up on this one right now but I wondered why all this was all crazy like this and we went into the to the skin the pictures that they give you and saw that this is basically an unfinished shower so these are all studs in here oh sure so now I know that that's going to be a straight a straight wall there cool um do you ever do the 3D with a section plane cut on the top section plane cut I have a little 3D view of this again I think you had one up already maybe no right right yeah right there okay use the camera and then get in your 3D menu and add the section slider um so it's right next to the wrench icon over there this one um actually I know which one is it again just you can go into that one uh no you can go into 3D I don't see her on this um go to 3D uh go to camera view options in the first camera view option all the way down to the bottom uh fifth from the bottom go to cross section slider there you go and yeah I thought about using that but that doesn't give me that I can't get the the cad details out of that then not the card details but you can actually Place ones and manipulate them and see where the wall breaks the plane of of your scan that way um sure like the height of it you mean yeah the other thing that happens with the matterport is a matter pack I should say is they actually give you the image files so you can load the materials and that's why yeah the materials didn't load with this one for me and I don't have that's why it's all gray yeah but the one that that was all really complicated we did have all the materials in there and that worked pretty good I like your um turning it on its side section right yeah that's cool yeah yeah great idea so so then once we have it because this this object thing here takes a lot of memory a lot of a lot of space because it's got so many surfaces in it so we actually start this in a in a plan by itself and we just called it whatever the job was and matterport after it and then once you have once you have like a detail like this I just take that and make that into a cad CAD detail and I copy that over to my plan that I'm doing my as built in and I lay this down right where where my plans yep so I got a DWG now to work with and I can clean up all these lines when I do that yeah and then you got something to snap to very cool yep you got something to snap to and then the other thing was um we're also going to use we just started working on this idea we're going to start using construction lines to pull through here where each of the scans were taken and we'll label our our uh we'll just use these construction lines to pull through here and then we'll label our CAD details the same same label that these construction lines have yeah and then we just go click on a construction line and know which one it is or go look at the number and they'll know what CAD detail to go look at for that cool so it uh it made an impossible job that just had a matterport scan of it actually doable without spending a whole bunch of money on it cool you could actually switch from construction lines to a double call out and Link the double call out to your CAD detail there's a good idea yep there you go yeah that would be even better and then you put that you just have all those CAD details and stuff put right in now one other thing I was going to show you here on the on the camera so we had to have these images sitting out here just so they're kind of we know we can see them right but we took that same 3D object and put it in so it kind of Falls in here so you can kind of see yep that's kind of matching up that object or one of them I guess I guide I haven't heard eye guide check that out um is that a I'm assuming eye guide is a Apple so um for those that don't know what these matter packs if you go into your material if you open up your object and you go in your materials into the materials panel you can load up all these materials they should be named in kind with what's in your matter pack you just have to locate them they don't always load so that's something the other thing you can do is um will you open this as a symbol class so open symbol from your edit menu down here yeah yeah if you increase the smoothing angle to something like three 360 degrees or something there underneath the faces section then you can use your delete surface tool and delete sections of that that you may have already measured or finished and so I want to change this to what it's like 360 something High something a very high value and what that does is it joins any um any faces that are within 360 degrees of each other as a single face and then in 3D you could use the delete Service Tool to delete large sections of it that you may have already measured in case if you're doing an as built thing um and truncate it down from there so okay yeah cool we don't need to display that but you know get a little deep into that that one but uh it's interesting but what you can do these days we've done three or four of them like this and it works really well cool so um yeah so that's the matterport uh some uh someone just commented about canvas is a lot easier so uh that was Bill yep so again whatever works for you so John is uh trying with that um we won't get into those programs right now Robin you got something you want to show are you there yeah you know and I don't think you want me to I'm having the worst internet connection yeah I'm having horrible internet connection you're a little fuzzy today so I wonder what's going on cool yeah that's all right um let's go spin the wheel um it's gonna rain here in Portland that's is that what it is when it gets a little rainy the internet goes to heck there all right let's spin her up see what happens uh um here for a long time so I think everything's all screwed up how do you guys do your roof saddles I gotta go open up the plan give me a second here oops come back to your files so everybody knows what a roof saddle is right and chief will do a pretty good job with many of them when you're building your plants no no roof cell you don't know what that is huh uh we call I call it Cricket over here reaching yeah defense I guess yeah I guess that'd be the same kind of a deal it's something that's going to drain the water away from a chimney or something like that uh hang on here I wasn't prepared for that particular topic today but give me one second and I will be let's see the wheel plan foreign foreign so what is that what is a saddle so one of the things that you'll run into all the time when you're doing roofs there's that one again um you need to do these saddles or crickets those are called all right so you don't want your water draining right into the back of that chimney because it's going to lick absolutely no question about it so you have to create those sometimes all right so you'll notice over here let me just give you a little tired of looking at myself like that um there we go so I've got a chimney here I've built this roof on this house and let's say you've done this and then okay why is my chimney not sticking up it's over the top as well the rule of roofs is whenever roof covers a wall it's going to cut it off that's normal that's what it's supposed to do so let me just close this and we'll tile our display so you can see what's going on here I just want to show you a little trick about how to find a height for a saddle so let's go to that roof plane which is on my second floor so there it is so the first thing I've got to do is get that around the walls that I've got here so I'm going to use my brake tool and again since I don't like to use the this I use my hotkey number three to add the brakes I'm going to add a break here and I'm going to add a break here if I come out like this and I had a break it's going to be in the right place right away so then I'm going to snap that into there and just get that lined up so now my walls poke through like they're supposed to okay I got a couple walls that are coming in based on the ceiling height of the second floor room I could either just pull those down or of course why is it doing that not supposed to um oh there it is so I could just pull those down if I want to and that would clean that up or I could just set the reset the room height okay so so there's that chimney and it's gonna be fit today isn't it I hate it when she does that kind of stuff the joy of 3D okay I'm not gonna worry about that piece floating it here let's put a saddle on this thing and let's get that saddle in the right place so when you're doing a roof like this let me turn my line weights off over here and the the quick way to do this is to know what is this height right here okay so I'm going to draw a roof plane let's just see if it Chief does it automatically it's like I'm going to have to change my ceiling height uh double click on the roof icon set the pitch that you want to draw your saddle at click ok go back to your your uh roof plane icon or click queue on your keyboard and draw a baseline oh come on draw a Baseline and click up toward the Ridge and I'm going to click on the center of that chimney wall because that's where I want the ridge to be anyway and you look here and you'll see okay well it actually put it pretty close to the right place so that time it did what I wanted it to do sometimes it doesn't sometimes that's way high in the air sometimes it's way low but because I drew it about where I wanted it Chief put did a good job of putting it where I wanted it so let's go in here and now I need to fit that saddle into place now had it not done that and I want to find the height there there's a little trick that I like to use all the time is I will just pull these edges up okay now this is the fascia height of the roof right here okay because I've pulled those other edges higher the fascia height is right there so if I know that height right there I'm pretty close to being where I want the fascia of the saddle to be so that's the fascia height so I'm just going to copy that number then I'm going to hit undo a couple of times to put those roof planes back where they were so now I have the height that I want I could put this click on this and I could you know lock my pitch and paste in that fascia top height which is really close to where keep put it automatically so I'm going to raise it up a couple more when I'll go one six seven click ok and now I've got to use my join tool I just had a client this morning that I was on with and I taught him how to use the joint tools he said he went for about 10 years calculating all of the areas of the edges once I showed once I showed him how to use the joint tool he went oh anyway he said that worth the price of admission right there so let's so I reshaped that so I'm going to hit the join tool that's this tool right here this will join roof edges together 100 of the time if they're meant to be joined together all right so I'm going to hit the number two key to do that see how I've created that and joined it perfectly now so now I'm going to take this copy reflect hit that Ridge click number two key to join join there's my perfect saddle in place worry about the ceiling height of the room separately so that's a way you can add it manually can you uh back up a few steps until you got your fascia going across the back of the fireplace straight again how far back uh I don't know like six or seven steps do you got that many undos in your they win I I wanted so that the the face right there whoops that went too far and this time instead of breaking that breaking the the edges of your main your full roof just click on the edge that would join to it my phone just click on the edge I can't do any I can't Mark or anything um click on the click on the on the part of that roof that would be the valley of your Cricket you're not going to break anything oh okay you're just going to click on the edge of that that Cricket that's going to be the valley right the other side the other side okay now try joining that to the roof destroying it right now just join it without breaking anything just join it to where so the roof that it's supposed to go to that one the one that's highlighting right there click click yep so there did it just fine but it didn't change this because it changed the shape of it because I didn't bring this yeah you didn't bring that over but now if you want that's one of the reasons that things won't work is because Chief can't join those together right so those need to be joined but then you should be able to should be able to do that so if I do this first right and then then do the join and then click on the roof yeah without without breaking any edges that should join upright well it's not working in that case sometimes it does sometimes you don't have to break the roof to get it to join interesting yeah yeah I noticed they've given you they've given us oh there we go so if I just get kind of close to where the valley should be she's showing me where it's going to go yes that's that what do they call that predictive movement right so there we go so I've done that I hit copy reflect we flip that over I do have to break this though so I'm going to break that and then I'll just rejoin that oops bring that down here there you go just join it to make sure so yeah that's the same little step there yeah sometimes some some I haven't even had to do the extra thing there and then there was one other thing I noticed that you did that I just wanted to point out because it's kind of a troubleshooting thing for me um if you zoom in on on the edge of the roof there like the top top of the chimney top edge of the CH on the 2D plan okay just zoom in right there and grab your roof Edge that goes down the side of the chimney yeah and pull it up to the framing [Music] and let go of it it pops out where it's supposed to go right let's see if that Chief will do that automatically right so that I I try to do that every time I build a roof because if I don't I'm going to be off on the siding that's what this is called use special snapping okay so if you ever have a deal where you don't want it to snap to something turn that off that's what special snapping is so yeah that Chief does a great job with that okay uh we're about out of time here aren't we so questions anybody anybody uh there was a question question back earlier about what you need to buy for a video card for x14 um just a quick comment for me about that is if you're holding off and buying x14 because you need you think you need a special card I'm still using a 1070. with x14 I just don't have all the all the the uh real-time Ray tracing stuff I'm using RTX 380 TI works fine um sure wish I would have waited to buy it because now they're a half of what I paid for the damn thing a year ago um but yeah something like that somewhere in that six seven eight nine hundred dollar range is going to do a fine job for you um the the 4000 series cards are coming um they're out I think you can buy them but they're like you know eighteen hundred two thousand dollars but I guess they're really good uh anybody else had any experience with those I I got a I've pre-ordered a 40 90. that's all I for your laptop desktop for my for my desktop oh okay cool pre-ordered just couldn't wait huh well that's all there that's available that I can find I saw a picture of the I saw a picture of them it's like that thick yeah they're massive it looks like it could take up four slots on a computer I have four cards in my in that computer and they're gonna replace all fours oh there you go yeah and I imagine you know when you turn the light turn the computer on your lights at the end on your house pretty well so yeah exactly yeah I put a new 200 amp service in my place just for that comparison anyway um yeah the I don't know how much they take for horsepower but they are big and uh so but I've heard great things about it so we'll see anyway if you guys wanna you guys want to cover this one next time what's that what's your template if if you have time I'd love to know a little more about Renee's template and why he only has two default sets versus multiple ones that Dan uses why don't we we'll just say that and we'll just create a special meeting just for that yeah because I think we're going to be we're going to be touching templates here pretty soon so yeah yeah yeah so yeah Renee and I are uh and John and probably you guys involved too we're gonna put our heads together gonna take Maya's template and update it to be your nice base template and then Renee is gonna you know we'll keep comparing but Renee is going to be the advanced template Renee is going to be the advanced and I'm going to be more just your general regular every day of the mill template so okay that's kind of what we talked about so that's that's coming up in the future yes yes thanks for John real quick you want to pin that one what's that uh this one yeah John um simple one for that is send put the picture in your plan and in a cad detail and then send the cad detail to layout and then you've got a label yeah so I'll show it real quick so we open the cat detail name it and call it a picture and click OK let's stick a picture in that and um let me find a picture real quick and I'll throw this one in there okay spin the wheel and so now you've got that detail in your plan so if you want to do that now we would do a call out um right here and we'll put that in our plan let's label the call out just call it picture we're going to do the let's see what do we want to do cross-section line and I can cross over and we can put that wherever we want and then we can link that to that detail right let me do that right here and we go here into that plan which is get too many open the wheel plan well uh get details picture okay so now anytime I want to open that detail I just double click on it down is your picture and that's how you do that that what you're talking about Renee yeah okay that's much easier it works well I I love how Chief is linking everything to everything nowadays on the layout and throughout your plan and we can actually do callouts that link to things on the layout two CAD details which we never could do before x14. yeah and that's a great use case for that um right there yeah you've got that picture label cool awesome well you guys uh uh check out uh check out the uh the course online if you go to and oops type in the right thing to show up at my house uh let's go to see home page she makes a great deal you can click on learn more and that'll take you on the page about the class yeah you'll probably register here uh it's um can't even hear me over that dog barking barely barely yeah so much they're going for a walk so um she warned me the dark screen about I thought she said the dogs in a barf and they go why is she sick but she's that dog's gonna bark um I love it and what was the uh what was the uh coupon code again it was uh where'd it go it was it was it was where did I put that like class 50 get 50 bucks off the class look forward to having a part of it perfect everybody thank you and we'll see you next time on the designer show thank you guys thanks see ya take care everybody